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Friday, July 16, 2010

The 4 Types Of Women That Will Date Nice Guys

The following is an excerpt from a letter written into an advice column. This is the type of letter that is far more common than most men think:

"I married for support and security. He married for love. ...

"Many times I wished for my freedom but I hung in there. ... As the years passed we grew apart but stayed together. I felt I owed him to try but I grew increasingly more depressed. Now, his drinking is getting worse. I feel guilty even thinking about leaving. He is a good person and I know he loves me, but I don't think I love him anymore."

The above scenario happens most often when a lifetime "nice guy" finally meets a woman that seemingly wants to be with him.  Men who don't understand what actually attracts women physically, emotionally, and mentally will use money or financial security to try to gain those emotions and will fail each time. This post addresses this very real, very common issue.


The most common arguments I've heard when talking about why "nice guys" don't get beautiful, emotionally healthy women are:

1) When women get older, they'll appreciate a nice guy.
2) Women that don't know how to be with a nice guy must not love themselves.
3) These guys just aren't meeting the "right" women.
4) Only younger women go for jerks.

Of course none of it has any truth in reality whatsoever and those excuses have as much validity as saying the Earth is flat. The two previous posts, "Never Listen To What Women Say, Watch What They Do" and "Nice Guys Will Always Finish Last" explains in detail why women will never be sexually attracted to a guy who bends over backwards for her.

However, we cannot ignore the fact that "nice guys" do get girlfriends and often times they even get married.  This post will outline the 4 scenarios that will make a woman want to pick, select, or settle with a nice, stable, and safe guy.


Scenario 1: Women Who Are Overweight and/or Unattractive

If a woman is overweight and/or unattractive, she'll be prone to settle for a nice guy because both parties are desperate. 

Here is the big irony: Neither party is truly attracted to the other.  

The nice guy isn't attracted to the fat and ugly woman; he still feels he deserves the cute, sweet, sexy woman that every other guy wants.  However, he feels those women should look past his needy, pansy behavior and instead see him for what a great guy he is on the inside, yet he won't give the ugly woman the same benefit.

The fat unattractive woman isn't attracted to the wussy, nice guy; she still feels she deserves the challenging, charming, good looking guy that every other girl wants.  However, she feels that those guys should look past her fat exterior and instead see her for how beautiful she is on the inside, yet she won't give the "nice guy" the same benefit.

Neither party is willing to make changes that will make them both be more attractive and have better choices, so they have to settle for each other. Sad and morbid, but still true.


Scenario 2: Women Coming Out of Abusive or Volatile Relationships

This is the most common scenario where an attractive woman settles for a "nice guy".  ("Settle" being the key word here).  At one time or another, beautiful, sexy women will almost always have had a volatile relationship with a really bad guy.  He will either be mentally or physically abusive in some way, cheated on her, and treated her poorly.  She will have given her all to him; physically, mentally, and emotionally in a way that a "nice guy" will never get to experience.

Once this relationship ends, she will want her next boyfriend to be the completely opposite of the jerk.  She may pick that one "friend" that's been patiently chasing her for the last 5 years or some other nice guy that she meets.  This is easy because beautiful women always have "nice guys" floating around waiting for her to "see the light".

She'll pick the nice guy because she doesn't have to work in the relationship; all she has to do is show up and he's happy.  He'll never speak a cross word to her and will always place her on a pedestal.  Once her ego is mended, she'll dump him and he won't understand why.  Sometimes the woman even goes back to her ex-boyfriend who treated her so poorly.

The women who are lucky in this scenario dumps the nice guy and moves on. The women who are unlucky in this scenario will marry the nice guy, have children, and always feel that something is missing.  Inevitably these relationships almost always end up in affairs and divorce while the guy is completely lost and confused. 

With the "nice guys" in these scenarios, there are no "lucky ones". They either get dumped and don't know why or they get married, get slapped with a divorce they don't see coming, and get stripped financially.

In this scenario the man never knows when to walk away because he is so very desperate.


Scenario 3: Women Who Are Past Their Physical Prime

Women who come to the point where they know they can't compete physically anymore will often times pick a "nice guy" to settle down with.  They know these guys have been desperately waiting and working towards finally having a woman see what a great guy he truly is.  Women know that these guys will never leave them....and they would be correct.

Men in this scenario, much like in Scenario #2, will forever walk on eggshells and will have absolutely no control in the relationship.  They will have to beg for sex, affection, love, and respect...which they will get very little of.  They will have to placate to the woman's ever whim.


Scenario 4: Gold Diggers

Although the common imagery of a gold digger are those who hang around celebrities, rock stars, and athletes, there is another level of gold diggers that are less flashy.   The typical image of a gold digger is correct, but these "high end" gold diggers are not as common as people imagine them to be.  They're usually drop dead gorgeous, charming, sexy, intelligent, and carry themselves well.  This is why they have the tools to make a run at men who generally can have any woman they want.  Their goals are disgusting, but they hide that well with a good exterior.

Most women can't compete at that level, but they still can be gold diggers.  For men who have a lot of experience, these "everyday gold diggers" are not hard to spot because they don't have the polish of their higher end counterparts. But lonely, desperate guys won't see them coming.  These women will search for the "nice, safe" guys because they know these men are desperate and can be controlled.  Most "nice guys" have good jobs and have spent their whole life preparing to be a good husband.  They're custom made to be taken advantage of by gold diggers because they have so many weaknesses to leverage, plus they lack any experience in dating to discern that they're being manipulated.


In all 4 scenarios above, the "nice guys" are selected because they look good on paper not because the women actually feel any sexual attraction for them.   To put it in a way that men will understand, it would be the equivalent of you selecting a fat and unattractive woman because you feel that you have to get married and you know she will cook, clean, and make a good housewife.   It doesn't take a relationship expert to know that you wouldn't treat her the same way you would treat a woman who looks like Jessica Alba.

So if you're a young man reading this, you have to ask yourself, do any of the above scenarios sound good to you?  If you subscribe to the feel-good statement that "one day you'll find someone who will love you for you", this is what your options will be.  This is reality guys; you can see these scenarios clearly in your own world if you just open your eyes.

If you don't take the time to understand men/women dynamics and what women are truly attracted to, then you'll forever be working 110% for 1% of her affection, love, and respect.

16 comments:

  1. Baller when you talk like that (and I know you are absolutely right) it is impossible to me to see THIS kind of women like manipulative human beings. What you just described is pure manipulation, it is USING another person just for her own good. Are these women AWARE of what they are doing? Is there any way to see these scenarios in a more optimistic way? I mean, what nice guy is not gonna hate "women" after having an experience like that? You even said these scenarios are common!!!! So, how to trust women again after having such a bad experience?

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    1. These scenarios are only common when you're a guy who hasn't done the necessary work to be a real man who is strong and attractive. It doesn't matter if these women know what they're doing or not. It doesn't matter if it's manipulative; that's not your concern. Your concern is why are you drawing these type of women? Your concern is why aren't you drawing better women? What about your mindset, fears, and life is repealing good, beautiful women? That's what you need to be focused on. I've always said that bad women are like viruses; every day we encounter viruses but we don't get sick because most of us have a healthy immune system. As a man if you're weak, fearful and haven't done the work to be an attractive man, then your "immune system" is weak...you're desperate and that's what draws these women to you....and you to them.

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  2. I think what's happening to me is that I don't hit on women that I really like, I just expect for women to hit on me, which happens often, (I'm a good looking guy). So, some of those women that hit on me are like the women you described.
    I like how you talk about attractive, beautiful women, meaning there's nothing wrong to want to be with them. Unfortunately in my case I've had the influence of my 3 sisters and mother, telling me all the time that it is bad to be attracted to beautiful women, that I have to see how beautiful they are in the inside. Every time I try to hit on young attractive girls I feel a lot of guilt for all the bad influence I've had not only from my sisters and mother but other "friends" that have told me that going after what I want is "shallow" and selfish.

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    1. Read this - I just posted it yesterday on a forum - http://markmanson.net/forum/thread-4155-post-40008.html#pid40008

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  3. Well, now I have another problem. Just not too long ago, I had a huge argument with my sister because she was dropping hints about how horrible would be for a man in his 40s to date a young girl in her 20s, which I was trying to do at the moment of the argument. I thought (and I still think) what she did was manipulative, because she did it so often that literally provoked a very high state of anxiety on me. I wasn't able just to ignore her hints, they had a really bad effect in my mind.

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    1. Same thing. It's very natural for men to like younger beautiful women. It's only an impact on you because YOU believe it's wrong.

      If I went up to you while you were eating lunch and said, "What's wrong with you? How could you eat that hamburger...you're such a backwards savage!" But if you didn't feel that eating a burger was wrong, you'd just look at me funny and continue your lunch.

      That's how it should be when a man is not ashamed of his desires. It's just feminist brain washing...nothing more.

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    2. Yes, it is. But it is everywhere! Not a lot of people approve it. And yeah, I know; I have to live my life.

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    3. No, the problem is that YOU don't believe it. Once you do it's completely a non-issue. Women love men who aren't ashamed of their desires and knows how to get what he wants.

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  4. ...."yet he won't give the ugly woman the same benefit"
    ...." However, she feels that those guys should look past her fat exterior and instead see her for how beautiful she is on the inside, yet she won't give the "nice guy" the same benefit."

    This what I LOVE about this blog, how honest it is!!!!!!!! Thumbs up Baller!

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    1. A woman with kids can fit into any of the above 4 scenarios. Unless the father is 100% completely out of the picture and you're in their lives before the age of 3 or 4 years old, there is very little positive benefit for you dating a woman with kids.

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  6. Why before the age of 3 or 4 years old? What happens after those ages?

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    1. Just don't do it. Work on lowering your desperation and making yourself attractive to women in general and you won't be asking these questions.

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    2. LMAO!!!!! 😂😂😂😂

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